It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. Lisanne would gave definitely called her mother AT LEAST ONCE because, listen to this this is from her own diary written just two days before their disappearance: I would like to know the answer to that question also. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. That way, no downloads are necessary. if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. Water bottle photo: I wish I had them as actual photographs that I could shuffle around until I can place them in the order in which I think they were taken. LoopNews According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. Can it explain Lisannes foot that was broken? However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. He went into the girls room without police, he was involved with finding of the backpack, and also the bones. I would certainly buy it if it had been printed in English. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. They keep trying to call emergency. 1 reason tourists sometimes annoy residents. She turns to talk Lisanna This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. . Most of the bones were never found. In this one its clear that Kris has her hand up, closed eyes and stuck out tongue. They were friends from college, and were roommates then, so Lisanne had to have known Kris password as her best friend. What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. Also, #509 was deleted after all of the other photos were taken, which means someone went back and deleted it after all of the nighttime photos were taken. Thanks for pointing this out. Why no more fotos were taken after 508 on the 1st until the nighttime session on the 7/8th? Some of them are human, including several skulls and a young girls intact corpse, in the bottom right, with a large hole in the head. Poverty, culture and crime in Latin America are different than poor nations in Asia and Africa. Look for an ex-military man who may be the culprit. Any comments that are disrespectful or inconsiderate to the families of Kris and Lisanne will be removed by a moderator. If you track the photos she takes her hair down around when she reached the top of the mountain and there are photos taken shortly after this showing her to be fine, in good spirits even. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. Theres a lot of loose ends to be tied up, but I think this 2021 investigation can do it. Debra Ann Velleman's husband, Anthony Velleman, another passenger and the pilot were rescued by Panamanian search and rescue teams. Minha Querida menina. Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. He wasnt walking with them. So they hide a lot of the gang activity and downplay what happens, which exacerbates the problem. Why did he leave them? You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. Do the additional photos reveal anything more? The timeline could have been enhanced with this info. Oliver, I just looked at your 1st link, and I can clearly see a human face in the red circle. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. You can see a kind of nose and lips. I think it would be nice for a botanist to take a look at the vegetation. Maybe someone had her in there sitting on the rock, and she heard them coming back and got up quickly to turn around. If you are sending an SOS message then they are received 24 hours a day. As the search was starting to wind up, a local woman handed in a blue backpack, claiming she found it in a rice paddy along the banks of the river. This girl was tortured before they killed her. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. Apparently it would also have been easy to alter the time stamps on the photos. Her stance is weird there is nothing of note she could be looking at and it is difficult to tell what her right arm is doing. Sorry to send so many messages Chris, but as a policewoman I have never liked to give up on a case.. Hello It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. Most of the pictures taken on April 8 are of complete darkness while some show the jungle floor, but two pictures are alarming: one is a picture of some of the girls belongings on a rock, and the other shows the back of Kremerss head with what appears to be a bloodstain in her hair. All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. Shortly after this photo is when the girls encountered trouble and tried to dial for help. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. Probably the culprit or stupid tribe didnt delete anything coz they took pictures on purpose .for example to sell the footage .but allready the police or parents who asked the investigator to delete it .they just simply didnt want to show it to everyone. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. There is so much to see and Juan is amazing. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. Yes the dog was owned by Giovanni and Doris, the owners of Il Pianista Restaurant. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! As for the wrong password entry. This is speculation. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. People have been there. There is very convincing evidence gathered by Juan Perea over the years on this case. Also the severity of the situation would dictate the time to the first SOS call. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. This level of negligence and irresponsibility would be considered criminal in a developed country. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. Thanks for your comment. Any idea of the exact location where this picture is taken? Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. And look at it from this point of view. German Tourist Sexually Assaulted After Being Lost In Panama's Jungles If it is not possible to join those two points together then that would at least shine light on the possibility that a third party was involved at some point leading to the appauling possibility that they genuinely were lost for some time (until the 5th?) After the attempted calls, the phones stayedon for some time. She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. He walked the trail with Ks parents, a sweet friendly lovely dog companion with big wise blue eyes, he is prominent in the video made by Ks parents as they walked the trail. I have seen comment to suggest that they could have made the trip to the divide returned and then gone to another place but then why no more fotos on either phone or camera? Emergency. Totally agree. She decided to attempt to reach her friend, or help via phone. She looks disorientated almost. (who knows why). The predator is methodical. "Tourism contributes 10% to EU GDP and creates jobs for 26 million people," notes the European Union Tourism Trends report. However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Im not sure though, Id have to search in my graphic editor again. For what reason? or Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. Sometimes that is all that is found. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? Hi Chris..I just came across this story yesterday and it was really sad and disturbingI hope the truth comes out too. If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas . Please note: Our team is committed to accuracy of information and respecting the privacy of those involved with this disappearance case. They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. Thanks for the observation. I have seen her stick out her tongue and other photos of her. It holds a bad energy. Blue, a dog known throughout the community, reportedly followed them along the trail. There appears to be a visible roof-like structure above Kriss head. What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. Meanwhile, on April 2, 2014, the pairmissed their appointment with their hired tour guide. Again NO SIGNAL! I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. I think Kris and Lisanne were two smart, savvy, levelheaded young women. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? There is no question thats what it is. Most disappearance cases dont get such publicity, so you can imagine how much less effort goes into them. Therefore, this can prove that the likelihood of a third party being involved is very high. Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. She turned around and they snapped a photo. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. Its incredibly sad. Central America is notably inexpensive, free spirited, less commercialized and is typically hospitable to travelers, therefore many travelers from around the world seek these adventures. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. Things Tourists Should Never Do in Panama, Ever - Culture Trip But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. Do mobile phones store the number entered? A man and a woman. Also theres a distinct small x made of branches or plastic in the top-mid right corner of the pic amongst the foliage that looks a part of the make shift roof/net. I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. Hi Chris! On the far right upper right of the photo. However, I cannot say for certain because I do not know why the owner would fabricate this part of the story. Then consider Kris and Lisannes parents when they trekked with a group along the trail, across two streams, until they reached a field with the disintegrating fence posts and the tall lone tree some hundred meters away. Certainly, each country around the world offers valuable experiences in their own way. Particularly given that you have very admirable aspirations for what you intend to do by investigating the trail on the ground. You can even see clear rods in the red areas towards the top going straight through. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. One was left above. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Someone watched them swimming. Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. More probable is that the picture was deleted. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. Herm appears to be traveling up to her head, which is why you dont see her sleeve. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. Btw, phones will connect to emergency services with or without sim card being present. exactly, you are very right about the shape of her arms and facial expression. But I still had that curiosity. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . Nothing more sinister than that. Many cold cases have been solved years later. They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. Right above it. The problem with the links you are providing is not that the links themselves are necessarily unsafe (they could be, but we wont test them)the problem is that ALL of your links require users to download some form of content. Should have read this before I commented lol. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. Do you think this could be at all relevant? It is a suicide decision and they, experienced travellers, know that. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. The relationship between pets and owners is different in Central America than in developed countries. I think that Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon underestimated their surroundings and were ill prepared for this adventure. Panama: Seven young people killed on trip to Gatn Lake Hi Tom, I believe you intended to comment above, on @SwordOfGods comment. Chilling photos reveal final moments of missing hikers in Panama jungle However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. I also see the handing ornament, whatever that is called and definitely a roof structure with leaves and branches above her. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. Then uses the flash to take many photos of the area, so she can return for Kris after finding help. Experts proposed several theories about how and why the women took thesephotos. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? Kris is clearly sticking out her tongue at someone. Matts article about the daytime photos (link), https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html, https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner, https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and.html, Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide), New Case Data: Night Photo EXIF Temperatures, Video Footage: El Pianista Complete Trail Hike, Canadas Freedom Convoy Raises Millions On GiveSendGo, Panama Expedition 2021 Complete Overview, Disappearance Stories A Word Of Caution, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (Case Articles), 18 Critical Tips for Traveling Central America. A desperate search for the students was launched, with rescue workers combing through the jungle and nearby villages. I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. Also why make them at night and not during the day?
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